Discussion on the Existence of Fields 
William S. Stoertz 
August 15, 1996 
Vilnius, Lithuania 
 
(4:37 pm) 
WS -- How would the gravity field be determined? 
HF -- By the object. 
WS -- How does it know the extent? 
HF -- By the neighbor. 
WS -- How do they both determine the extent? 
HF -- You have a start, proportionally. Check it out. From 1 
you cannot know. 
WS -- Why? 
HF -- Who is to measure extent, by what, and why? 
WS -- How does it start? 
HF -- From imaginary space-time. 
WS -- How can that become real? 
HF -- It's real when you put stuff in it. 
WS -- So that's what You do? 
HF -- Did. There's a measure of the relativity of reality. 
WS -- When does it become most real? 
HF -- When I send My True Son and Daughter. 
WS -- It comes to True Parents already. 
HF -- Of course. Now where will you start? 
WS -- With that acknowledgment. 
HF -- Good. So what's the purpose of the pursuit? 
WS -- To know the foundation of matter, of space, of time, 
of existence, of consciousness, of Heaven and earth. Did 
You tell me what You want? 
HF -- Step by step. How much do you understand? 
WS -- Your answer is the best. 
HF -- I like the subject. 
WS -- Okay, let's get into it. Why are there only 3 (4) 
dimensions, as Hiroyuki Yamakawa said? 
HF -- They're stable. Of course 5 (in the physical world) is 
too much. 
WS -- You have Sung-Sang. 
HF -- Yes. It's the stable and absolute center. 
WS -- Is Sung-Sang multi-dimensional? 
HF -- Yes. But you can refer to it as "vertical"; likewise 
Hyung-Sang as "horizontal". Keep it Principally simple. It 
doesn't rotate when the space-time coordinate systems 
rotate. It's a universal absolute. Because you're in it, but also 
you're looking at it. Just like that, you moved. Mind is 
subject. From there, the coordinate systems in the object 
world. 
WS -- Where doe the unreal, imaginary, or complex plane 
fit in in the relationship to the mind? 
HF -- You imagined it. You can do it. It doesn't fit into the 
physical ("real") world except symbolically. It is object to 
your mind. 
WS -- What's the subject-object relationship? 
HF -- God -- your mind. Your mind -- your body. Your 
mind -- the Sung-Sang. Sung-Sang -- Hyung-Sang. Time -- 
space. Vertical -- horizontal. Hierarchies or levels, both of 
Sung-Sang and of Hyung-Sang. It's all in order. 
WS -- Where are the lines (of the gravity field)? 
HF -- Wherever you draw them, there is a vertical. 
WS -- Where does it come from? 
HF -- Whenever you put something, it is in relationship to 
something that is. 
WS -- How does it know? 
HF -- How does which know? 
WS -- How does the object know where the subject is? 
How does the subject know where the object is? 
HF -- Okay, there you go: the Unified Fields. There you ( -- 
, must, can) prove the existence of the Unified Fields. It is 
inescapable. See? The object enters the Unified Field 
(already) (established by/of) the subject. Then they form a 
(new/expanded) Unified Field. 
WS -- Why would (one/they) deny the Unified Fields? 
HF -- They say they are a construction of the human mind. 
Actually, they are My construction, as laws. Of course, I 
don't draw lines, but everything has an orientation and 
position. 
WS -- How to prove it? 
HF -- Let us assume there is no unified field. Then the 
object enters the vicinity of interaction with the subject. But 
this vicinity is a unified field. Therefore contradiction. 
Therefore there must of necessity exist unified fields in 
order for subject and object to interact. Proven. Let us 
suppose someone denies that vicinity is a unified field. 
However, vicinity describes the relationship of two 
individual truth bodies in 1-, 2-, 3-, or 4-dimensional space. 
This is sufficient definition for a unified field. Therefore 
vicinity is a unified field. Let us say that there is no vicinity. 
In that case, subject and object would not interact. However, 
it is known that they do. Contradiction. Therefore, vicinity 
must be attributed to every subject and object which can 
interact. Vicinity is not the only type of unified field, either. 
WS -- How does an object create space? 
HF -- When it has a neighbor. When there are at least 2 
objects within a universe, then of each, at least it can be said 
that there is another object. Space comes back to counted 
gradations, or counting gradients. 
WS -- What defines the counting gradations? 
HF -- Assigning numbers is a step up in heavenly standard, 
from an undefined, unknown, or chaotic world. 
WS -- Where do you start from? 
HF -- The origin. If you can't find an origin, you make one 
up, or start from yourself. 
WS -- What do you use as the standard? 
HF -- Something that you know. A body part, or an atom... 
WS -- How do you measure? 
HF -- Yes. Mine are fine. 
WS -- What do You use? 
HF -- Photons. 
WS -- Do You count? 
HF -- Yes. Of necessity. You can't imagine My computer. 
WS -- The real world? 
HF -- Yes, but.... 
WS -- Where are the Unified Fields? 
HF -- In the Sung-Sang realm. I count or calculate by 
Logos. 
WS -- What about the earth's surface? 
HF -- It's been there a long time. You see why I don't resort 
to the origin each time? I use rule-of-thumb, like you. It is 
enough for what needs to be done. 
WS -- Do You use parallel universes? 
HF -- For complicated and uncertain things. I work back 
from the outcome. Do you understand? 
WS -- Yes. Do You always use photons? 
HF -- First, and for what is at a distance. 
WS -- How are gravitational fields calculated? 
HF -- I know the space. If it didn't change drastically (as it 
sometimes does or has done). Things move in an orderly 
fashion. As you and I like them to. When something 
(changes, comes up, happens), you and I take notice. 
WS -- How do You measure space by photons? 
HF -- Angles, direction, history, (polarization, color,...). 
WS -- Do You really? 
HF -- Do you think I do not know, or care? Of course I 
know and care, more than you. 
WS -- Are You kidding about history (of a photon)? 
HF -- That is a heartfelt secret to Me.... 
WS -- How could You possibly? What are they, 
spontaneously created (on site), or did they travel across 
space? 
HF -- Traveled. And I waited. See why it is heartfelt? You 
perhaps didn't really think so.... 
WS -- They are so fresh...! 
HF -- Waiting for you. Fresh as dew. Over billions of 
years. Again, like a snowflake, like a flower, and like My 
Heart. 
 
1996.8.15. 6:02 pm 
ITPN   W. Stoertz 
Vilnius, Lithuania